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! System !! Example rule !! Pros !! Cons !! As seen in
 
! System !! Example rule !! Pros !! Cons !! As seen in
 
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| Daily actions
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| Short cycle actions (eg. daily)
 
|| ''"As a daily action, a player may build one brick."''
 
|| ''"As a daily action, a player may build one brick."''
 
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* '''Use-it-or-lose-it''' forces a decision
 
* '''Use-it-or-lose-it''' forces a decision
 
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* Forces players to '''grind''', remembering to take the action every day
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* Forces players to '''grind''', remembering to take the action very frequently
 
* '''Advantages older players''' over newer ones: by the end of the game, they will have had more chances to build bricks
 
* '''Advantages older players''' over newer ones: by the end of the game, they will have had more chances to build bricks
* '''Stalemate''': Often pushes players to take the action as late as possible in the day, so that others have less time to react to it, and they have more time to react to other players
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* Rewards '''quick reactions'''. In some situations, a player who reacts first to the new day can get the advantage.
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* '''Stalemate''': In all other situations, players will want to take the action as late as possible in the cycle, so that others have less time to react to it, and they have more time to react to other players.
 
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|-
 
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| Weekly actions
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| Long cycle actions (eg. weekly)
|| ''"As a weekly action, a player may build seven bricks."''
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|| ''"The Emperor may announce a new round if the current round is more than 96 hours old. Once per round, a player may build seven bricks."''
 
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* '''Easy to understand'''
 
* '''Easy to understand'''
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* '''Advantages older players'''
 
* '''Advantages older players'''
 
* Still some '''grind'''
 
* Still some '''grind'''
* '''Stalemate''': Pushes players to take the action as late as possible in the week
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* In some cases, rewards '''quick reactions'''.
* '''Some game silence''': Hard to tell (early in the week) if other players are biding their time, or bored
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* In others, pushes players to '''stalemate''' and take the action as late as possible in the cycle.
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* '''Some game silence''': Hard to tell (early in the cycle) if other players are biding their time, or bored
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|| [[Ruleset 210#The Gift of the Isle]]
 
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| Weekly topup
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| Cycle topup
 
|| ''"At the start of the week, each player gains seven bricks. A player may build a brick at any time."''
 
|| ''"At the start of the week, each player gains seven bricks. A player may build a brick at any time."''
 
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* '''Advantages older players'''
 
* '''Advantages older players'''
 
* Still some '''grind'''
 
* Still some '''grind'''
* '''Stalemate:''' Pushes players to take all seven actions as late as possible in the week
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* '''Stalemate:''' Pushes players to take all seven actions as late as possible in the cycle
 
* '''Game silence''': Patience and boredom broadly indistinguishable
 
* '''Game silence''': Patience and boredom broadly indistinguishable
 
* Encourages '''stockpiling'''
 
* Encourages '''stockpiling'''
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* '''Game noise''': Bursts of game activity can happen at any time during the day or week
 
* '''Game noise''': Bursts of game activity can happen at any time during the day or week
 
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* '''Stockpiling''': May require a mechanic that pushes players to invest their bricks over time (eg. auctions, where you spend bricks to gain something else of value).
 
 
* The context that brick exist in differ between older and newer players, which may bonus or penalize one or the other.
 
* The context that brick exist in differ between older and newer players, which may bonus or penalize one or the other.
* '''Newcomer advantage''': Can give too much power to newer players, late in the game
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* '''Newcomer advantage''': Later players can make optimum moves based on others' earlier mistakes
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* '''Stalemate'''
 
|| [[Ruleset 147#Bankroll]] (?)
 
|| [[Ruleset 147#Bankroll]] (?)
 
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||''"The group starts with 250 bricks. At any time, a player may take one of the group's bricks and build it."''
 
||''"The group starts with 250 bricks. At any time, a player may take one of the group's bricks and build it."''
 
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* '''Game noise''': Bursts of game activity can happen at any time during the day or week
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* '''Game noise'''
 
* '''Use-it-or-lose-it''': Encourages players to act sooner rather than later
 
* '''Use-it-or-lose-it''': Encourages players to act sooner rather than later
 
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* Tragedy of the Commons: needs balances to stop a bad actor from emptying the pool in one go
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* Tragedy of the Commons: a bad actor can empty the pool in one go
 
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| Turn-based
 
| Turn-based
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* No '''race''' condition; there is no advantage in reacting quickly
 
* No '''race''' condition; there is no advantage in reacting quickly
 
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* Needs rule machinery to handle the turn sequence, and inactive players
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* Needs rule machinery to handle the turn sequence
* With a static queue, later players are able to copy good moves from earlier players; may also be an advantage to being immediately after a careless player
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* Turn order matters: possibilities for first player advantage; later players copying moves; benefitting from being directly after a careless player
* Lots of downtime, very slow-moving
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* Lots of downtime, very slow-moving (especially if some players are inactive)
* Ruleset changes coming mid-round can create a fairness issue, or require delaying mechanisms
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* Ruleset changes enacting mid-round can create a fairness issue, or require delaying mechanisms
|| [[Ruleset 155#Crates]], <br/>[[Ruleset 182#Turns]], <br/>[[Ruleset 172#Battle_Actions]], <br/>[[Ruleset_167#Bidding_Queue]]
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|| [[Ruleset 155#Crates]], <br/>[[Ruleset 181#Turns]], <br/>[[Ruleset 172#Battle Actions]], <br/>[[Ruleset 167#Bidding Queue]], <br/>[[Ruleset 203#The Queue]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Simultaneous reveal
 
| Simultaneous reveal
||''"Players submit build orders secretly to the Emperor. As a weekly action, the Emperor applies all submitted orders."''
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||''"Players submit build orders secretly to the Emperor. When all players have submitted orders, the Emperor applies them."''
 
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* No '''race''' condition
 
* No '''race''' condition
 
* Actions do not depend on other players' earlier actions
 
* Actions do not depend on other players' earlier actions
 
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* '''Complex'''
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* '''Needs Emperor moderation''': complex resolution systems can become a [[Avoiding_Dead_Ends#Complex_Update_Actions|dead end]]
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* Secrecy can delay the noticing of mistakes or loophole abuse, if a player submits an illegal or surprising order
 
* Players may forget to submit orders
 
* Players may forget to submit orders
* '''Needs Emperor moderation''': complex resolution systems can become a [[Avoiding_Dead_Ends#Complex_Update_Actions|dead end]]
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|| [[Ruleset 120#Notes]], <br/>[[Ruleset 169#The Watch]]
|| [[Ruleset 120#Notes]], <br/>[[Ruleset 169#The_Watch]]
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|-
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| Synchronised actions
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||''"Players announce build plans publicly and can change them. When nobody has changed their mind for 24 hours, all plans are built."''
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* No '''race''' condition
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* Actions don't depend on those of others
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* Weakens last-minute loopholes: a player using one reveals it to others, who can also use it
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* Requires a '''complex''' processing step
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* Can cause a '''stalemate''' if a player refuses to commit to a decision
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|| [[Ruleset 179#Wagers]]
 
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| Date-based income
 
| Date-based income
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* The gained resource can become [[BlogNomic Jargon|fool's gold]].
 
* The gained resource can become [[BlogNomic Jargon|fool's gold]].
 
* Can possibly turn into a '''race''': having the amount of built bricks unknown until the moment having bricks is useful to the player.
 
* Can possibly turn into a '''race''': having the amount of built bricks unknown until the moment having bricks is useful to the player.
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| Proposals
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||''"To build one or more bricks, make a proposal declaring your wish to do so: if it enacts, they are built."''
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* '''Level playing field'''
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* '''Game noise'''
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* '''Use-it-or-lose-it'''
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* Can slow the proposal queue down
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||[[Ruleset 117#The Chambers]], <br/>[[Ruleset_193#Floors_.5B45-48.5D|Ruleset 193#Floors]]
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| Auctions
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||''"Players make open bids of coins, where only one auction is open at a time. When nobody wants to bid any higher, the highest bidder may build a brick."''
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* '''Game noise'''
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* Can make the cost of actions self-balancing
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* Each auction results in only a single action occurring
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||[[Ruleset 139#Planning]],<br/>[[Ruleset 147#Auctions]]<br/>[[Ruleset 176#Auctions]]
 
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* Reduces the '''advantage to older players''', if newer players with luckier rolls can catch up.
 
* Reduces the '''advantage to older players''', if newer players with luckier rolls can catch up.
 
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* Introduces chance which may favor certain players regardless of their skill.
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* Adds '''luck''', which may favor certain players regardless of their skill.
 
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| Cost actions by frequency
 
| Cost actions by frequency
|| ''"A player may build a brick at any time but must pay one additional brick for each brick they've built today."''
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|| ''"A player may build a brick at any time but must pay one additional brick for each brick they've built that day."''
 
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* Lessens '''burst activity''', because bursting is expensive.
 
* Lessens '''burst activity''', because bursting is expensive.
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| Linked actions
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| Caretaker roles
|| ''"When a player does X they may also build a brick."''
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|| ''"A player may build a brick by announcing this in a blog post. Any caretaker may apply the gamestate changes."''
''"When a player does X they may build a brick or ..."''
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* Allows action '''complexity''' to be handled by a subset of players (possibly just the Emperor) who are comfortable with it.
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* Reduces the chance of the gamestate becoming illegal.
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* May give some [[BlogNomic Jargon|admin advantage]] to the caretaker players.
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* Game can stall if the caretakers idle or are otherwise unavailable.
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| Hidden information
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|| ''"Each player has a secret shape they are trying to build."'' / ''"Each player has a secret pool of randomly coloured bricks."''
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* Reduces '''stalemate''': with some of the game hidden, players aren't just watching each other take verifiably optimal moves as late as possible. An early move can be a successful (or double) bluff.
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* Requires an active Emperor (or complex hash system) to track.
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* Scams can be opaque if they involve hidden gamestate.
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| Shared playing area
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|| ''"Each player places bricks of their colour on the same shared building site."''
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* Reduces '''stalemate''': a good opportunity seen early in the week may be unavailable by the end of it, encouraging players to seize the day.
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* May add a '''race''' condition, to be the first to respond to another's move
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|| [[Ruleset 1#The Game Board]], <br/>[[Ruleset 182#The Mosaic]]
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| Hashes
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|| ''"Players record an MD5 hash of their next build action, to be revealed after all have recorded one."''
 
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* This action usually inherits the pros and cons of whatever action triggers it.
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* Can remove the need for '''Emperor moderation'''
* Lessens the amount of rules needed to state when a player can take that action: any constraints on this action are inherited from the host action.
 
 
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* Can overload actions and fragment what the host action does across the whole ruleset, which can make it difficult for new players to join.
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* Players can make mistakes when using hashes, invalidating moves
|| Specifically the "Craction" from [[Ruleset_155#Crates]]
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|| [[Ruleset 132#Confessions]]
 
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==Combined examples==
 
==Combined examples==
  
* Weekly topup + resource cap = [[Ruleset 181#Stamina]]
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* Weekly topup + resource cap = [[Ruleset 180#Stamina]]
* Weekly actions (where a week = 96 hours) + first-mover advantage = [[Ruleset 182#Natural_Monuments]]
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* Weekly actions (where a week = 96 hours) + first-mover advantage = [[Ruleset 181#Natural Monuments]]
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* Weekly topup + resource cap + cost actions by frequency + hidden information + shared playing area = [[Ruleset 182#Turns]]
  
 
[[Category:Essays]]
 
[[Category:Essays]]

Latest revision as of 15:13, 21 July 2023

This is a comparison of ways in which a BlogNomic dynasty can restrict the performance of actions, using a hypothetical example where the gameplay centres around the building of bricks. (It's assumed that the goal is to build a lot of bricks, but there are unseen other rules in place that make the exact time and method of this more nuanced.)

This still needs expanding, feel free to add more examples, and more pros and cons for those already listed.

Action timing

System Example rule Pros Cons As seen in
Short cycle actions (eg. daily) "As a daily action, a player may build one brick."
  • Easy to understand how it works
  • Level playing field: at any given point in the game, nobody is better at building than anyone else
  • Game noise: Clear distinction between active and inactive players
  • Use-it-or-lose-it forces a decision
  • Forces players to grind, remembering to take the action very frequently
  • Advantages older players over newer ones: by the end of the game, they will have had more chances to build bricks
  • Rewards quick reactions. In some situations, a player who reacts first to the new day can get the advantage.
  • Stalemate: In all other situations, players will want to take the action as late as possible in the cycle, so that others have less time to react to it, and they have more time to react to other players.
Long cycle actions (eg. weekly) "The Emperor may announce a new round if the current round is more than 96 hours old. Once per round, a player may build seven bricks."
  • Easy to understand
  • Level playing field
  • Some game noise: Still some distinction between active and inactive players
  • Use-it-or-lose-it
  • Advantages older players
  • Still some grind
  • In some cases, rewards quick reactions.
  • In others, pushes players to stalemate and take the action as late as possible in the cycle.
  • Some game silence: Hard to tell (early in the cycle) if other players are biding their time, or bored
Ruleset 210#The Gift of the Isle
Cycle topup "At the start of the week, each player gains seven bricks. A player may build a brick at any time."
  • Some distinction between active and inactive players
  • Advantages older players
  • Still some grind
  • Stalemate: Pushes players to take all seven actions as late as possible in the cycle
  • Game silence: Patience and boredom broadly indistinguishable
  • Encourages stockpiling
Currency "At any time, a player may pay a coin to buy and build a brick." (Other game rules output coins in a complex way.)
  • Visible status: Easy to see how prepared each player is to take build actions
  • Still advantages older players over newer ones, but easier to balance
  • Stalemate: Players with coins may wait to see what others do, before spending their own
Finite personal resource "Players start with 50 bricks each. At any time, a player may build one of their bricks." (Rules generally do not output additional bricks.)
  • Level playing field: Newer and older players start with the same mechanical budget
  • Game noise: Bursts of game activity can happen at any time during the day or week
  • The context that brick exist in differ between older and newer players, which may bonus or penalize one or the other.
  • Newcomer advantage: Later players can make optimum moves based on others' earlier mistakes
  • Stalemate
Ruleset 147#Bankroll (?)
Finite shared resource "The group starts with 250 bricks. At any time, a player may take one of the group's bricks and build it."
  • Game noise
  • Use-it-or-lose-it: Encourages players to act sooner rather than later
  • Tragedy of the Commons: a bad actor can empty the pool in one go
Turn-based "The active player may build a brick at any time. It then becomes the turn of the next player."
  • No race condition; there is no advantage in reacting quickly
  • Needs rule machinery to handle the turn sequence
  • Turn order matters: possibilities for first player advantage; later players copying moves; benefitting from being directly after a careless player
  • Lots of downtime, very slow-moving (especially if some players are inactive)
  • Ruleset changes enacting mid-round can create a fairness issue, or require delaying mechanisms
Ruleset 155#Crates,
Ruleset 181#Turns,
Ruleset 172#Battle Actions,
Ruleset 167#Bidding Queue,
Ruleset 203#The Queue
Simultaneous reveal "Players submit build orders secretly to the Emperor. When all players have submitted orders, the Emperor applies them."
  • No race condition
  • Actions do not depend on other players' earlier actions
  • Needs Emperor moderation: complex resolution systems can become a dead end
  • Secrecy can delay the noticing of mistakes or loophole abuse, if a player submits an illegal or surprising order
  • Players may forget to submit orders
Ruleset 120#Notes,
Ruleset 169#The Watch
Synchronised actions "Players announce build plans publicly and can change them. When nobody has changed their mind for 24 hours, all plans are built."
  • No race condition
  • Actions don't depend on those of others
  • Weakens last-minute loopholes: a player using one reveals it to others, who can also use it
  • Requires a complex processing step
  • Can cause a stalemate if a player refuses to commit to a decision
Ruleset 179#Wagers
Date-based income "Players have as many bricks as the numerical difference between the start date and today. They can build a brick by increasing their personal start date."
  • Eliminates grind, as gains are automatic.
  • No advantage to older players, as new players can catch up.
  • Stalemate
  • Encourages stockpiling of time
Ruleset 170#Workdays
Infinite "A player may build a brick at any time."
  • Easy to understand and implement.
  • No advantage to older players: any player can take this action however much they want at any time.
  • Risk of game silence while players wait for the ideal moment to perform the actions.
  • Encourages burst activity, where nothing happens for a while and then everything happens.
  • The gained resource can become fool's gold.
  • Can possibly turn into a race: having the amount of built bricks unknown until the moment having bricks is useful to the player.
Proposals "To build one or more bricks, make a proposal declaring your wish to do so: if it enacts, they are built."
  • Level playing field
  • Game noise
  • Use-it-or-lose-it
  • Can slow the proposal queue down
Ruleset 117#The Chambers,
Ruleset 193#Floors
Auctions "Players make open bids of coins, where only one auction is open at a time. When nobody wants to bid any higher, the highest bidder may build a brick."
  • Game noise
  • Can make the cost of actions self-balancing
  • Each auction results in only a single action occurring
Ruleset 139#Planning,
Ruleset 147#Auctions
Ruleset 176#Auctions

Action modifiers

Modifying how the action is performed can mitigate some of the downsides in the above table.

Modifier Example rule Pros Cons As seen in
Downside "Whenever a player builds a brick, the wolf attacks them."
  • Removes grind, if the downside is enough that players will not always want to take the action.
  • Can reduce an advantage to older players by having the downside affect them more than it affects new players.
  • If the downside is currency-like, it may introduce the downsides of currency (advantages older players and stalemate).
First-mover advantage "The first player to build each round build 10 bricks, the next 9, etc."
  • Reduces stalemate.
  • Can be difficult to balance; too much of an advantage and it becomes a race to take the action.
Randomly determined "As an X action, a player rolls a die and builds that many bricks."
  • Reduces the advantage to older players, if newer players with luckier rolls can catch up.
  • Adds luck, which may favor certain players regardless of their skill.
Resource cap "A player has a pool of up to 10 bricks to build with, and gains 7 per week."
  • Prevents stockpiling
  • Use-it-or-lose-it forces a decision
  • Disadvantages less active players, who may (even if they only miss a few days of play) fall behind.
  • The maximum stockpile allowable might be limiting to engaging gameplay.
Cost actions by frequency "A player may build a brick at any time but must pay one additional brick for each brick they've built that day."
  • Lessens burst activity, because bursting is expensive.
  • Adds game noise by encouraging players to do something every day.
  • Hard to keep track of.
  • Can reintroduce the grind and stalemate of daily actions.
Caretaker roles "A player may build a brick by announcing this in a blog post. Any caretaker may apply the gamestate changes."
  • Allows action complexity to be handled by a subset of players (possibly just the Emperor) who are comfortable with it.
  • Reduces the chance of the gamestate becoming illegal.
  • May give some admin advantage to the caretaker players.
  • Game can stall if the caretakers idle or are otherwise unavailable.
Hidden information "Each player has a secret shape they are trying to build." / "Each player has a secret pool of randomly coloured bricks."
  • Reduces stalemate: with some of the game hidden, players aren't just watching each other take verifiably optimal moves as late as possible. An early move can be a successful (or double) bluff.
  • Requires an active Emperor (or complex hash system) to track.
  • Scams can be opaque if they involve hidden gamestate.
Shared playing area "Each player places bricks of their colour on the same shared building site."
  • Reduces stalemate: a good opportunity seen early in the week may be unavailable by the end of it, encouraging players to seize the day.
  • May add a race condition, to be the first to respond to another's move
Ruleset 1#The Game Board,
Ruleset 182#The Mosaic
Hashes "Players record an MD5 hash of their next build action, to be revealed after all have recorded one."
  • Can remove the need for Emperor moderation
  • Players can make mistakes when using hashes, invalidating moves
Ruleset 132#Confessions

Combined examples