Discussion: Dynasty Ideas
This page is for people who would like to practice giving an Ascension Address, and to discuss ideas for future dynasties.
- 1 Suggested Ideas
- 1.1 The Poetic Dynasty
- 1.2 The Nomic Time Travel Dynasty
- 1.3 BlogNomic Dynasty
- 1.4 Real life travel Dynasty
- 1.5 A picture speaks more than a thousand words
- 1.6 Reverse Nomic
- 1.7 Parallel Universe Nomic
- 1.8 Lawyer Nomic
- 1.9 Elector's Dynasty
- 1.10 Bidding Nomic
- 1.11 Robotic Duels
- 1.12 Pass The Rule
- 1.13 The Round One Dynasty
- 1.14 Bluffed Actions
- 1.15 Dinosaurs
- 1.16 Diplomacy
- 1.17 Straight Victory
- 1.18 Unidentified Items
- 1.19 Car Maintenance
- 1.20 Cosmic Encounter
- 1.21 The Nothing Dynasty
- 1.22 Sevens
- 1.23 Foosnomic
- 1.24 The Dynasty of a Hundred Emperors
- 1.25 The Festival of the Core Documents
- 1.26 Players vs Emperor
- 1.27 Parallel BlogNomic
- 1.28 Parasitic Dynasty
- 1.29 Monster Trainer Dynasty
- 1.30 Caper Dynasty
- 2 Used Ideas
The Poetic Dynasty
Replace all instances of Scribe with Poet, replace all instances of Editor with Director, replace all instances of Rule with Sonnet. Repeal all dynastic rules, and add the following: A poet, like my father: All rules, with the exception of this one, must have an acceptable rhyme scheme that that rule follows and is written withen the rule. It must not simply be an alphabetical string of letters. ExampleYes:ABAB ExampleNo:ABCD
The Nomic Time Travel Dynasty
A Dynasty based on the mechanic of taking "snapshots" of the Ruleset every week (each Sunday?), and granting players the ability to remove themselves from the current Ruleset, and play according to a snapshotted Ruleset.
A Dynasty where a sub-game of nomic is being played that initially has no effect on the outer Dynasty. It might be interesting to have the initial rules of the sub-game be slightly edited Core rules of BlogNomic, but it may be weird if a sub-Dynasty starts up.
Real life travel Dynasty
A Dynasty where, to go around the game map (our Earth!), you have to find real-world bus/airplane tickets and pay their real price in game money to travel around. (A different take on "real life" was tried in The Eighteenth Dynasty of Kevan. The First Dynasty of Wakukee involved some not-too-realistic travel between any real-world locations.)
A picture speaks more than a thousand words
All Dynastic Rules are pictures. Pictionary, nomic-style.
You start with a ruleset and can only remove from it (or adding is significantly taxed). Repeal to your advantage and strategically remove words to change the meaning of rules!
Parallel Universe Nomic
Two universes with two slightly different (or maybe even significantly different) rule sets. You can step into portals to change your universe and gain advantages.
Players are encouraged to challenge rules, change them, remove them, find loopholes. Maybe the goal is to change the core ruleset itself (if only temporarily for one dynasty).
The players are electors picking the next emperor. The emperor will make a number of promises before he is elevated, on issues ranging from land disputes to religious policy to high offices. Each elector secretly picks some issues to support. When the emperor is finally elevated, along with his platform, the game will be scored. Offices, including the emperor, will score points, which everyone can predict. But the issues will also be worth points, and those are a secret. Who will get the best deal out of this election of the emperor? This dynasty can also be done with a more modern theme: members of a parliament are forming a government.
A fixed number of opportunities to gain points will be presented. Players will make blind bids for them. How much is too much? Do you prepare to win big or do you play it safe?
- The First Dynasty of southpointingchariot was based around a bidding system. --Kevan (talk) 18:48, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Players begin with a certain amount of cash and may design a robot in a ? x ? grid. They may buy parts to be filled in the grid and battle other robots. The trick is that they cannot see what the others' robots look like so must deduce by money spent, who won, etc. ([Example robot design])
Pass The Rule
Like the drawing game where people fold paper before passing it to another person, players write sections of rules which would be revealed later after stitching them together. Some maybe limited the submitted rule to a certain number of characters would make it more interesting.
The Round One Dynasty
Mentioned on Slack by Trigon:
- The initial proposals include multiple concepts from Round One like Karma and maybe the Gameboard. Players are encouraged to propose in the style of Round One. Players go inactive if they do not keep an active "blog" which just means wiki edits.
This idea could be extended to any number of throwback dynasties, but for some reason, Round One just seemed especially cool.
Something like Coup, where players are assigned some secret identity information (possibly just announcing new MD5 hashes at any time) but are free to take actions claiming any identity they like, only having those actions blocked if they are challenged and unable to prove themselves. --Kevan (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Can't remember who suggested it during the current dynasty, but we should try a full-blown Diplomacy-style game some time: secret high-stakes actions submitted to the Emperor, which are resolved simultaneously (and may turn out not be what you promised your allies). The Fifteenth Dynasty of Kevan touched on it with its terrain and free movement treaties, but didn't really get there. --Kevan (talk) 15:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Someone said this during a spate of "pick me, no, pick a random player, no pick a random player from this subset" victory proposals at the end of a dynasty: a dynasty where persuading a quorum to vote for a victory assignation mechanic is pretty much the whole game. Just needs a very light theme on top. --Kevan (talk) 10:31, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
More a mechanic than a theme, but it's one I enjoy a lot: a pile of items and a list of defined item effects, but you don't find out which corresponds to which until you risk trying them out. (See the potions and scrolls in NetHack or the weapons in Awful Green Things.) --Kevan (talk) 10:12, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The Emperor is a busted car, the players are mechanics performing actions to try to get the car to work and complete a full circuit of the Nürburgring? Josh
- And one of them is a traitor. --Kevan (talk) 18:46, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, The Seventh Dynasty of Josh ended up being mostly about fixing cars up. --Kevan (talk) 18:50, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
I only played the board game once and was entirely nonplussed by it: as I remember it's a basic but negotiation-heavy take-that attack game (you declare an attack and other players can either join in, help defend the victim or ignore you), with bizarre alien race abilities to shake things up. A simple game with combat voting plus weird effects sounds like a good fit for Nomic. --Kevan (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
The Nothing Dynasty
Players are trapped in a featureless void without dice or counters or anything. No gamestate beyond proposals. Maybe pointing at people and counting on fingers, at a push. --Kevan (talk) 09:20, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think this would be super interesting. Probably an exercise in trying to create gamestate via Proposals? A Proposal that creates a copy of itself with infinite FORs and "updates" its own contents routinely via cycles of enactment (and the content of such an phoenix Proposal could be amended by other Proposals to break the loop or add more variables) could be used as a bootleg tracker wikipage. --Cuddlebeam (talk) 10:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
The ruleset may only and must always contain exactly 7 dynastic rules. Each rule may have an "alternate" text to which it may switch under circumstances. The rules could be structured by function (actions, scoring, victory etc) and the dynasty could be themed around the recurrence of the number 7 in human culture (sins, liberal arts, wonders of the world etc). Josh (talk) 12:15, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
This was tried a bit in Blegnemic in Tyguy II, but I believe the idea could work as a full dynasty theme. Basically, similar to how Foosball is a simplified, "toyified" version of football, there could be a parallel version for nomic play (Blognomic in particular) itself. Maybe "toy" players can be recruited and used with different stats and they play various "dynasties" within this Foosnomic world. --Cuddlebeam (talk) 09:58, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
The Dynasty of a Hundred Emperors
After noticing that the SCP Dynasty's "Attendant" NPC was an accidental reprise of the Emperor of The Third Dynasty of Brendan, it might be entertaining to dredge out the titles of all past Emperors, discard the duplicates, and see what we can do with that. --Kevan (talk) 19:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
The Festival of the Core Documents
Players vs Emperor
The Eighth Dynasty of Josh explored a somewhat similar theme, but one of the things underpinning the comments on this post is that there is a tension between the objectives of the Emperor role and the Player role, in some of the ways in which those roles manifest. Specifically - for some Emperors, the objective is to construct a good game with a robust ruleset, and for some players the objective is to break that game creatively and for personal gain. Why not make that the dynasty? One that draws out the tension between the GM-aspect of the Emperor and the anti-game chaos-monkey instinct of the Player? Josh (talk) 12:53, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps a bit like The Sixth Dynasty of Josh except fictional - basically, exploring the BlogNomic of a parallel universe, 200 dynasties of unfamiliar players and game concepts that never were. What clever scam did Raxemblau pull off to win the Fourth Dynasty of RickyMorton? Isn't it weird how players were required to keep an active blog all the way into early 2018? What was the Dinosaur Dynasty actually like? Josh (talk) 21:41, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
A dynasty where the gameplay takes place offsite in some existing game system, with BlogNomic's rules merely being a system that recognises its players and turns game outputs into Nomic inputs (and, if treated carefully, disallows certain actions in the external games). This could either be lots of small games (like those at https://boardgamearena.com) feeding into some kind of challenge or tournament system, or one massive game like Diplomacy where we're basically just outsourcing all the subgame mechanics of a dynasty. Would be useful for allowing us to play a complex game without spending a week getting its bread-and-butter rules right, but it does limit how much we can alter that game. --Kevan (talk) 16:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Monster Trainer Dynasty
A Dynasty where you are Partnered with your own Monster. As you Explore the world, Train your Monster, Battle other Monster Trainers and other (possibly wild, possibly evil) Monsters, and eventually Evolve your Monster, you form a strong Bond that allows you to bring out the Potential of your Monster! May involve elements of media where Monsters are "digital", can go into "pocket"-sized spheres, or are "ranched".
Welcome to the Enigmon Institute! I am the Head Professor of Enigmon Studies, or the Professor for short! There are mysterious creatures in this world we have dubbed Enigmon - as in Enigmatic Monsters. They can form powerful Bonds with the right human, and have the capacity for great growth and even Evolution, but nobody knows where they came from. Some think they are extraterrestrials. Others believe they have come from the future. Some even think they spawned out of cyberspace, escaping the internet into the real world somehow. All crazy theories, but each one has some solid proof. I, along with my collegues here, research these creatures, but people have found other uses for them. Some have their Enigmon Battle against each other as "Tamers" to help them grow and Evolve. Others use them for jobs. Still, some use them to commit crimes! I'm hoping you are not those kinds, as I am entrusting you with something important.I sense great potential in every one of you. While we have done much research, one thing eludes us besides the Enigmons' origins - what causes the Bond between them and Tamers. Bonds have a mysterious power that I would like you to research. Please, become a Tamer and Bond with an Enigmon! --Zyborg (talk) 19:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
A Dynasty based on running a heist/caper like in Mission Impossible, Ocean's Eleven, Now You See Me, etc. A lot of the theme would be actions relating to planning, casing, etc. for the Big Heist most likely, although much of the action could actually BE the Big Heist. Maybe smaller Heists, Capers, Cons could be a thing.
Good evening, friends. You may call me the Mastermind. I have gathered you all here today for your unique skills and certain perspectives on how things work in the world. If you choose not to undertake this... operation... you can walk away now, nothing gained, nothing lost. But if you choose to pull this off, you will end up walking away richer than kings, and feel good knowing the target we will have... borrowed from got what was deserved. --Zyborg (talk) 19:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Seeing the future Dynasty
A Dynasty where you state your actions X days in advance, and by consuming a resource, you can check on someone else's stated action planning and then change your own, as if seeing the future allows you to change your timeline because you have new information. (In true future-seeing, wouldn't the act of seeing the future also be predicted by that same future seeing? Anywhoo, like this its more cool and mechanics-worthy lol)
Used in The First Dynasty of Axemabaro
Inspired by a thousand blank cards, this is a dynasty where actions can depend on draw of a card and playing the card. There may also be rules concerning what you can write on a card.
Used in The First Dynasty of Derrick
It's worth noting that my proposal there expands to English and really was meant to shorten long sentences I couldn't get around while drafting the Steal action and allow others to use that notation later. It wasn't based on any programming language or intended to turn the dynasty into a programming dynasty. Take a look at http://nomyx.net/ and slashdot's old perl nomic site/google group for this Dynasty idea. Card (talk) 06:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Used in The Second Dynasty of card
Used in The Fourth Dynasty of Cuddlebeam
Something in the vein of SCP or The Lost Room: a catalogue of objects and/or lifeforms with powerful abilities, locked securely away until the players or the objects themselves break containment. --Kevan (talk) 10:12, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
An auction dynasty where players can bid whatever they like on items - any number, completelt made up - but at the end of the game the player who has spent the most is disqualified and the player who has spent the least gets a big advantage. Josh (talk) 18:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Is this inspired by Q.E.? I've still not played that one. --Kevan (talk) 20:51, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- It is inspired by QE, yes, which is the dumbest smart game I've played in ages. Josh (talk) 20:53, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Used in The Eleventh Dynasty of Josh