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::Alright. I just hope it doesn’t slip into being overly cancelling, because I still want to make jokes about PC Master Race and the sort without getting into official trouble for making a joke about Master Races, or being called androphobic for calling someone a dick, for example.--[[User:Cuddlebeam|Cuddlebeam]] ([[User talk:Cuddlebeam|talk]]) 13:19, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 
::Alright. I just hope it doesn’t slip into being overly cancelling, because I still want to make jokes about PC Master Race and the sort without getting into official trouble for making a joke about Master Races, or being called androphobic for calling someone a dick, for example.--[[User:Cuddlebeam|Cuddlebeam]] ([[User talk:Cuddlebeam|talk]]) 13:19, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 
:::If you're under the impression that the BlogNomic community as a whole would generally be fine with jokes about master races, this definitely needs clarifying. --[[User:Kevan|Kevan]] ([[User talk:Kevan|talk]]) 17:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 
:::If you're under the impression that the BlogNomic community as a whole would generally be fine with jokes about master races, this definitely needs clarifying. --[[User:Kevan|Kevan]] ([[User talk:Kevan|talk]]) 17:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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::::Seconded. --[[User:Brendan|Brendan]] ([[User talk:Brendan|talk]]) 15:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
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I think the GF code of conduct is a good starting point, and you're right, Josh, that it is overdue--BlogNomic is not a large community of active people at any given time, but viewed historically, it composes a significant number of people. Large groups benefit from clear expectations and a team dedicated to acting on them.
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In addition to basic safety, I have been thinking quite a bit about the thread [https://blognomic.com/archive/breakpoint_arrived#comments in the comments of "Breakpoint Arrived,"] started by Clucky and continued by Josh and Kevan: the tension between it being a good strategy, even perhaps the best available strategy, to attack another player's motives, and the resultant emergent effects on perceived standards of communication. I think it's worth considering a trial of clearly stated game etiquette and accompanying definitions. I would want to draw those less from abstract social expectations--which may not be shared across different cultural upbringings or neurodivergent populations--and more from the things that, from experience, we have seen have cascading negative effects. I know there's some community opposition to putting things like this in the Ruleset, but maybe we could get to consensus on a page to link in the sidebar, at least. --[[User:Brendan|Brendan]] ([[User talk:Brendan|talk]]) 15:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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The intent is noble but I believe we’re more often hurt by grievances specific to the game than social justice issues. I believe its mostly because matters of race, ability, etc are very rarely relevant to Blognomic. We’re mostly just having friendly competition with rules, enjoying an intellectual sport.

I believe Com. Glines focused more on sportsmanship rather than political correctness would be more appropriate. --Cuddlebeam (talk) 12:13, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

We don't know that - just because nothing has been raised doesn't mean it's never happened - but more more importantly: unless anyone disagrees that we object to harassment on any of those bases, it doesn't hurt to include it. Josh (talk) 12:48, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Alright. I just hope it doesn’t slip into being overly cancelling, because I still want to make jokes about PC Master Race and the sort without getting into official trouble for making a joke about Master Races, or being called androphobic for calling someone a dick, for example.--Cuddlebeam (talk) 13:19, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
If you're under the impression that the BlogNomic community as a whole would generally be fine with jokes about master races, this definitely needs clarifying. --Kevan (talk) 17:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Seconded. --Brendan (talk) 15:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)


I think the GF code of conduct is a good starting point, and you're right, Josh, that it is overdue--BlogNomic is not a large community of active people at any given time, but viewed historically, it composes a significant number of people. Large groups benefit from clear expectations and a team dedicated to acting on them.

In addition to basic safety, I have been thinking quite a bit about the thread in the comments of "Breakpoint Arrived," started by Clucky and continued by Josh and Kevan: the tension between it being a good strategy, even perhaps the best available strategy, to attack another player's motives, and the resultant emergent effects on perceived standards of communication. I think it's worth considering a trial of clearly stated game etiquette and accompanying definitions. I would want to draw those less from abstract social expectations--which may not be shared across different cultural upbringings or neurodivergent populations--and more from the things that, from experience, we have seen have cascading negative effects. I know there's some community opposition to putting things like this in the Ruleset, but maybe we could get to consensus on a page to link in the sidebar, at least. --Brendan (talk) 15:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)