Talk:Plays

"Card Advantage": does this mean I have an advantage? - card

heh it nearly did in that last dynasty Card (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Knights

"Black Knight and White Knight (which came up last dynasty)" - where was this from? Google is drawing a blank.

I'm not sure White Knight even has to be an Emperor. Regular players will fix problematic bugs, and even cynical players will fix a loophole if they can see that other players are in a better position to abuse it. --Kevan (talk) 16:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

I think Cuddlebeam was referring to the Moby-Dick dynasty where his strategy was to rely on default values (being the Black Knight) and you fixed it near the end of the Dynasty (making you the White Knight). I don't think he ever posted those terms but maybe thought with them or simply gave name to them here. Maybe with those cynical players there's room for a Grey Knight? Although I would think most people would fix rules that unintentionally harm them. Card (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

First time I use a talk page, sorry if I'm derpy. I was more focused on the idea that the Emperor has no in-game interest to make the routine fixes, while those regular/cynical players do. So, the Emperor does it just for an agenda of good faith, not to improve their chances to win the game - that's the big difference, and what I mean with "White Knight". But we should probably get a better term for it. White Emperor? Zamboni Emperor (routinely cleans up/changes the ruleset so that play can be "better")?

White Knight/Black Knight are business terms, and my intent was to just try to use the original metaphor that those terms originally came from (which I don't know if it actually exists or not, I just liked the name and thought to use the same because they have a similar feel, but maybe other names are better). And yeah, I was referring to the Moby-Dick dynasty.--Cuddlebeam (talk) 17:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

I like "Zamboni". I don't know if we should be suggesting that this is a rare and nameable thing among Emperors, though - what other Imperial styles actually exist? It feels fairly normal for a bug to be fixed by the Emperor when it's raised, if only because (being out of the running for victory) the Emperor is less precious about their proposal slots.

White Hat might be better term at the player level, for the kind of player who, upon discovering a powerful ruleset-altering loophole, will simply use it to close itself. --Kevan (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Holy fuck, White Hat/Black Hat works perfectly. I like it a lot. And its easier to get "White Hat Emperor" than "Zamboni Emperor" imo (both pretty much the same meaning that I intended to convey), because I suspect a lot of us are silly nerds who is familiar with those terms already. Very nice. --Cuddlebeam (talk) 18:34, 1 August 2018 (UTC)