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== Posts of Interest ==
 
== Posts of Interest ==
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/bankroll Bankroll] Created Cash and Starting Cash
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/recruitment Recruitment] Created bidding for Bloggers, a named entity that has a level, and limited how many bloggers a manager could employ
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/the_underdog The Underdog] Made quorum one less for the purposes of enacting proposals for managers with the least starting cash
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/bloggers Bloggers] Made bloggers have stats brains brawn and balls
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/conferences Conferences] Made managers have conferences
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/steriods Steroids] Made performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) that could be bought by a manager
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/play_to_win_the_game Play to win the game] Defined a full team as having 3 bloggers. Defined matches between full teams
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/playing_time Playing Time] Limited how many games a manager could play relative to other managers. Tracked how many games a manager has played.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/sports_is_big_business Sports is big business] Gave managers cash when they play a game
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/supply_and_demand Supply And Demand] Limited how many Bloggers a manager could buy. Mane it explicit that bids are positive integers.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/unemployment Unemployment] Fixes auctions so that they can close if nobody has bid on them
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/tools Tools] Made tools, made them equippable to Bloggers, allowed managers to carry any number of them and defined some starting tools
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/go_west_young_manager Go West Young Manager] Allowed managers to change their conference. Made it so that the commissioner can only oversee a match between two full teams of the same conference.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/make_peds_compatible_with_causality Make PEDs compatible with Causality] Made the buying of PEDs logical
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/peds_riskbenefit PEDs Mechanics] Made cops investigate managers with PEDs. Also some mechanics for having PEDs in a game
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/the_test_drugs The Test & Drugs] Made PEDs count as a diminishing return and added to the level of a blogger for one game. A 10% each time that a blogger is tested.
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*https://blognomic.com/archive/manager_image Manager Image] Made a manager image that's an image of one of the stats. A blogger when added to a team of the same image as their highest stat gains a level, losing one otherwise.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/non_free_anything Non-free Anything] Made it clear that spending something deducts it from the manager's cash.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/amendment_to_core_rules1 Amendment to Core Rules] Moved "Atomic Actions" to the core rules, which had been kept by the previous Emperors for the past 4 dynasties
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/going_twice Going Twice] Made auctions last 48 hours instead of 24.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/the_numbers_game The Numbers Game] Made a blogger's stats randomly decided, instead of their default 5 value
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/too_many_cooks_in_the_kitchen Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen] Removed the match PED rules from the "PEDs Mechanics" proposal.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/no_more_zero_underdogs No More Zero Underdogs] Made the underdog rule apply to managers that don't have $0 for their starting cash.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/team_friction Team Friction] Allowed managers to attempt to boot a blogger off their team
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/more_tools More Tools] Made levels and stats decimal numbers. Also added ~17 more tools.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/lord_bless_these_managers_hearts Lord, bless these Managers’ hearts] Made certain bids invalid.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/eager_eyes Eager Eyes] Added Pick Up Players, which are badly statted players which could be bought for a set amount
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/the_time_machine The Time Machine] Added a Time Machine that could change a manager's starting cash
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/fixed_minimum_bid_increment Minimum bid increment] Made it so that the minimum bid that's still valid has to be at least 10% higher than the previous bid
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/bidding_disaster Bidding Disaster] Enacted "Lord, bless these Managers’ hearts" out of order and fixed some auctions which couldn't be closed
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/training_and_trading Training and Trading] Allowed trading and training of bloggers
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/re_roll Re Roll] Rerolled Blogger's stats which were created before "The Numbers Game" passed
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/debt Debt] Allowed managers to go into debt
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/named_pups_and_more_games_this_time_with_fairness Named PuPs] Allowed PuPs to be named
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/going_once Going Once] Cleaned up the cloned auction rules
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/more_game_no_more_work_this_time_with_fairness More Game, No More Work, This Time with Fairness] Allowed people other than the commissioner to play games
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/more_than_just_skill More than Just Skill] Made stats do something the a teams power
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/starting_sticks Starting Sticks] Allowed managers to get tools
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/reimaging Reimaging] Gave precedence to stats
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/revenue_bonus Revenue Bonus] Gave extra cash to the winner of a match
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/random_numbers_change_by_default Random numbers change by Default] Reversed some actions that had resulted in lvl 17 PuPs
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/combo_a_rebirth Combo: A Rebirth] Reintroduced the combo idea from the previous dynasty, allows a large series of actions to be documented and performed.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/most_bloggers_play_with_just_a_stick Most Bloggers Play With Just A Stick] Added blogging averages and let bloggers increase their level by playing matches
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/spring_cleaning1 Spring Cleaning] Removed PuPs, made bids of value $0 invalid
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/manager_steps_in Manager STEPS IN] Allowed managers to join a team as a blogger. It was never utilized.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/early_dismissal Early Dismissal] Allowed the commissioner to not create an auction for a given blogger when created in the gndt
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/no_more_clones No More Clones] Stopped matches where a team can play against themselves
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/better_tools Better Tools] Allowed managers to upgrade their tools
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/great_scott Great SCOTT] Changed some of the functions of the Time Machine. Also attempted a scam via a sentence with unstated scope.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/slowing_our_rolls Slowing our Rolls] Limited managers to only 3 bids for a given auction
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/freezebullet_scam Freezebullet Scam] Explination of said scam
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/silence SILENCE!] Made silent auctions. This was never utilized.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/final_bowl Final Bowl] Made a victory condition.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/rinse_and_repeat Rinse and Repeat] Adds tags, which defaults to a limit to the scope of proposals unless there is a tag giving a different scope
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/faustian_deal Faustian Deal] Allowed immediate increase of cash at expense of a larger increase of starting cash (which was the condition for victory at this point)
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/purchasable_experiences Purchasable Experiences] Auctioned the overseeing rights and the time machine
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/final_bowl_unclogging_13 Final Bowl unclogging + 13] limited what managers could participate in the final bowl and made 13 rounds standard
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/whens_a_stick_not_a_stick When’s a Stick not a Stick?] made it explicit what can be upgraded
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/the_final_bowl_is_now_ready The Final Bowl is now Ready] An attempted scam that could've worked if the scammers followed the rules
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/fixing_a_critical_issue_appendix  Fixing A Critical Issue] Limited the length of die which can be rolled in the GNDT
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/summoning_closing_ceremony Summoning Closing Ceremony] Another attempted scam that failed because the scammers didn't follow the rules
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/hands_off_our_bears Hands Off Our Bears!] Undid the arguably illegal killauctions
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/lets_settle_this_with_bloggsball Let’s settle this with Bloggsball] Reverted some gamestate stuff and froze bloggers' states.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/un_limited_power -Un-limited power] Removed the image level up.
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/lets_get_on_with_it_already Unscammy Final Bowl] Made the first dice rolled in the gndt for a match count for the final bowl instead of any subsequent ones
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/the_closing_ceremony The Closing Ceremony] Gave the final merit tally
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/an_end_to_the_madness An end to the madness]
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*[https://blognomic.com/archive/atomic_actions_2_reloaded Atomic Actions 2: Reloaded] Was created before the ascension address but didn't pass until the next dynasty
  
 
== Ascension ==
 
== Ascension ==

Revision as of 15:07, 27 May 2017

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April 14, 2017 - May 21, 2017

Ascension Address

Centuries ago, a group of teenagers in Pays-Loups, a small country near Zahndorf, decided to settle a small quibble by hitting various things and each other with sticks. They had so much fun doing this that they decided to do it more often, and other people had so much fun too that over time Bloggsball became not only the national sport of little Pays-Loups but a favorite pastime of neighboring countries as well.

As the Manager of a local International Bloggsball Association-affiliated Bloggsball team, this has so far meant big business for you. But a recent contract dispute has led every IBA player to quit right before this upcoming season. There’s only a few weeks to fill out your team, and maybe win some games, before crowds expect to see which team wins this year’s championship belts.

. . .

Throughout the ruleset, rename “Organ” to “Manager” and “Statolith” to “Commissioner”. Keep the “Atomic Actions” rule.

Players

The following players were active at the start of this dynasty:

arthexis, card, Cuddlebeam, derrick, Matt, Maldor, Oracular rufio, orkboi, pokes, Quincunx, Ryntai, Sphinx, Viv

And at the end of this dynasty:

card, Cuddlebeam, Matt, Oracular rufio, pokes, Sphinx

Posts of Interest

Ascension

Artist's impression of the Final Bowl

Took a while and was a bit of a mess. Cuddlebeam won the auction giving them the right to oversee all of the Bloggsball matches in the Final Bowl.

(1) Immediately beforehand, Cuddlebeam traded players back and forth with Publius Scribonius Scholasticus repeatedly to create players with Level 10^31 or so; they then played a game with these players to generate essentially infinite cash. With the infinite cash, they trained other Managers' players' stats to engineer the Final Bowl point totals they wanted. The games between other Managers were determined to be illegal since their stats couldn't have gone above the cap of 10.

(2) Players belonging to Managers other than Cuddlebeam and PSS were then removed from them via trading the players to PSS, who then auctioned them off. This left only Cuddlebeam and PSS with full Bloggsball teams. A CfJ undid this and restored the teams. Another CfJ gave Cuddlebeam 52 points for winning their four Final Bowl matches and rescheduled a Final Bowl between everyone else.

(3) This next Final Bowl involved Cuddlebeam overseeing some half-matches: A match/game was an atomic action that starts with rolling dice; if the dice looked to be unfavorable to Cuddlebeam, they wouldn't finish the atomic action and let it time out after an hour. The more favorable dice would have given Cuddlebeam victory; yet another CfJ made the games use their first rolls, giving Sphinx the most Merit.

Final Ruleset

Ruleset 147

Commentary

Commissioner's Commentary: The rules for distributing players via auctions were part of the initial proposals, but I didn't anticipate the auctions becoming even more of a grind than just a daily grind. Managers would improve upon bids by the minimum amount ($1, then later 10%) thus making auctions less about who had more money and more about who sniped them better. It sort of got fixed later by limiting the number of bids and allowing for silent auctions (never used) but by then the damage was done; several Managers had idled and no auctions got to the same dollar amount as before, even for great players. --Pokes (talk) 22:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

I'll definitely give a full commentary later but: DYNASTIC QUOTA OF A RESOURCE TO PERFORM ACTIONS: S U P E R B MECHANIC. Such as having limited games and cash. Everyone starts the same, newcomers aren't boned and you can still do stuff if you want to and have good strategic play when you happen to be active. Daily actions cancer: never again. Dynastic quotas are the cure. (Daily actions basically make "IRL Time" that quota and that sucks balls, because not everyone would have that same amount, either because they join later or they just forget to grind. Hail Dynastic Quotas!) --Cuddlebeam (talk) 22:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Other

On the nature of errors in Nomic: This was brought up in CfJ and illustrated as an "Illusion" versus "Sticky". continuum (Summarized into a picture: [1]). This issue has been also discussed in Agora's theses "Breaking the Rules" by Steve Gardner and to a smaller degree in "Pragmatism and Platonism: Two Approaches to Nomic" by Don "Vanyel" Blaheta, which may be of interest for anyone into a more in-depth exploration of the problem.

Dynastic Histories

Round One - Myke I - Lyndse I - Myke II - Kevan I - Anthony I - Est I - Kevan II - Damanor I - Kevan III - Cayvie I - Josh I - Keitalia I - SatyrEyes I - Metadynasty I - Cayvie II - Brendan I - Kevan IV - Knightking I - Chronos Phaenon I - TrumanCapote I - Knightking II - Quazie I - Simon I - AngryGrasshopper I - Rodney I - Aaron I - Josh II - Metadynasty II - Chronos Phaenon II - Excalabur I - Excalabur II - 75th Trombone I - Elias IX I - Metadynasty III - Angry Grasshopper II - Hix I - Thelonious I - Elias IX II - Rodney II - Clucky I - Doremi I - Chronos Phaenon III - Amnistar I - Clucky II - Amnistar II - Bucky I - Clucky III - Josh III - Kevan V - Hix II - Spikebrennan I - Jack I - Purplebeard I - Rodlen I - Yoda I - Amnistar III - Darknight I - Bucky II - Yoda II - Metadynasty IV - Arthexis I - Amnistar IV - Devenger I - Ais523 I - Ienpw III I - Qwazukee I - Klisz I - Metadynasty V - Bucky III - Wakukee I - Kevan VI - Ais523 II - Josh IV - Purplebeard II - Ais523 III - Ienpw III II - Klisz II - Lilomar I - Coppro I - Ais523 IV - Kevan VII - Brendan II - Alecto I - Josh V - Clucky IV - Purplebeard III - Kevan VIII - Ais523 V - Purplebeard IV - Yoda III - Bucky IV - Kevan IX - Bateleur I - Metadynasty VI - Coppro II - Ais523 VI - Cpt Koen I - Southpointingchariot I - Josh VI - Scshunt III - Quirck I - Clucky V - Bucky V - Kevan X - Josh VII - Kevan XI - Scshunt IV - RaichuKFM I - Larrytheturtle I - Skju I - Metadynasty VII - Purplebeard V - Spitemaster I - Josh VIII - RaichuKFM II - The Alien I - Benzene I - RaichuKFM III - Purplebeard VI - Kevan XII - Ayesdeeef I - Bucky VI - Kevan XIII - Josh IX - Mideg I - Kevan XIV - Brendan III - Kevan XV - Tantusar I - Josh X - Kevan XVI - Thrawn I - Brendan IV - Kevan XVII - Moonroof I - RaichuKFM IV - Larrytheturtle II - Brendan V - Kevan XVIII - Brendan VI - RaichuKFM V - Kevan XIX - Brendan VII - Kevan XX - Viv I - Pokes I - Sphinx I - Madrid I - Pokes II - Madrid II - Metadynasty VIII - Axemabaro I - Diabecko I - Kevan XXI - Diabecko & Card I - Kevan XXII - Derrick I - Card I - Madrid III - Card II - Kevan XXIII - Pokes III - Kevan XXIV - Trigon I - Derrick II - Kevan XXV - Derrick III - Farsight I - TyGuy6 I - Pokes IV - Madrid IV - TyGuy6 II - Kevan XXVI - The Duke of Waltham I - Josh XI - Clucky VI - Naught I - Metadynasty IX - Kevan XXVII - Josh XII - Clucky VII - Josh XIII - Bucky VII - Josh XIV - Kevan XXVIII - Lemonfanta I - Clucky VIII - Josh XV - Misty I - ais523 VII - Josh XVI - Kevan XXIX - Trapdoorspyder I - Metadynasty X - Brendan VIII - Brendan IX - Zack I - Misty II - Josh XVII - MadisonSilver I - Josh XVIII - Kevan XXX - Lendunistus I - Josh XIX - SingularByte I - Trapdoorspyder II - Bucky XIII - JonathanDark I - Trapdoorspyder III - Habanero I - JonathanDark II - Misty III - Metadynasty XI - Josh XX - Lemon II - Kevan XXXI - Josh XXI - Clucky IX - Vovix I - JonathanDark III - Zack II - JonathanDark IV - Josh XXII - Kevan XXXII